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Thursday, July 1, 2010

Aparadhi GHQ

They are an organized group of male deviants of Prabhupada philosophy, parts they object to, simultaneously claim to be his superior followers.


  • All are “women haters,” most strongly support polygamy.

  • All are male supremists; adamant that blacks, women, Latino's, Anyone who disagree with them – are lower classed, less intelligent (that's why there wasn't agreement), lower birth, and inferior to them.

  • All are abnormally puffed-up.

  • All are hard headed, and reject advice.

Lust is the name of the game. Lust over sex, but also lust for power, lust to be the thought police, lust to gain charge of ISKCON, lust to control any devotee who understands Prabhupada's philosophy different from their strange way. Lust and powersame.

The mentality of GHQ is astoundingly low. Harshness and abusive language recurrently directed at others - the privilege these overseers grant themselves, since they are authority, so they think. Kindness is artificial. Its cloaked manipulation, purposed to pull in devotees, make others deem them nice; an art they exploit.


"The pseudo religionists have neither knowledge nor detachment from material affairs, for most of them want to live in the golden shackles of material bondage under the shadow of philanthropic activities disguised as religious principles. By a false display of religious sentiments, they present a show of devotional service while indulging in all sorts of immoral activities. In this way they pass as spiritual masters and devotees of God. " Sri Isopanisad, Verse 12, Purport"

These "guru-pati's" strongly disagree with many of Srila Prabhupada’s superior most glorious instructions, but evade related conversation by use of lengthy jugglery of words, or conceal their disagreement.

They claim they’re not breaking of the four regulative principles because they do not approach their wife once she becomes pregnant. Often ending their conversation on this topic, there. However, what appears they are hiding would be this scenario:


They marry a woman, impregnate her. Easy for him to “avoid” approaching her for sex again, because now he can flirt with another woman and make her his next wife to have sex with. Once she too becomes pregnant, no problem should he get lusty, simply he takes on wife number three, then four, five, etc. He is using women to (pardon my french) “relieve” himself, as opposed to controlling himself. Thus he is breaking the 4 regulative principles, because when this man gets lusty, he feels justified to either get a new wife, or approach one that gave birth a while back. This is trickery and dishonest to their vows.

Financially they most likely can’t do this, or so we think because we could not. However they are extremely attached, and they are organizer. Most likely planning their own little cult-like society, possibly similar to the bizarre Texas Mormon polymist commune, preferably to take over Iskcon as they have mentioned. Therefore look out authorities. They are rascals, not truthfully keeping vows they made their spiritual master. If If they can be dishonest there, the foremost of all, they can be dishonest anywhere.

Polygamists point out there'd be no cheating husands if polygamy became socially acceptable. They must think anyone other than themselves as imbecille. Using a different name, polygamy, is still recognizable cheating. Worse, they give all attributions to God. However, they slant scripture and be tremendously fallen. Why must the world, society, especially women, and children, make many unpleasant changes for kali yuga polygamists who refuse to use self control? Yoga means inclusion of maha self control. There'd be no cheating husbands if they put a stop to their wandering eye as what truthfully is in accordance with vows they took. Even so, misogynists want the external circumstances to change so they don’t have to control the mind and lower chakra.

GHQ craves to indulge in sex, sex, and more sex; while remaining elusive about this maha aspect, to make others believe they're not breaking vows. They've no problem constructing many types of veils as disclosed in some of their private emails. They will ramble on and on to build smoke screens purposed for hiding their overactive sex desire, using concepts of morality, and any other issue they can. Never do they come out into the open to confess they want more and more sex. Whereas, anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows a man who wants more than one woman in his home, wants more sex in his home.

Trying to embed traditional Hindu Caste System as if it's what Prabhupada wanted, when truth remains he repeatedly preached "against" the caste system. Prabhupada all ready instructed what he wants. (See blog “Know Your Stuff,” June posting. Follow up with "Know Other Stuff," June.)

Astoundingly, even upon birth of daughters, the GHQ father never waivors (from his maya). Attached to maintaining his self-rightous position, even daughter is treated as less-intelligent female he must marry off young. Some deprive her adequate education. This be evidence of the depth of attachment to sex and ego. Even their own children, they contaminate, for purpose that they (parents not children) may continue indulgence in sex and powerful lording it over. Not pedophiles of their own children. No. However, they believe in marriage of daughters as young as 11 or 12 years old, to old feeble man. Persisting they are protecting her and keeping morality in the world, when in truth she becomes very confused and accepts the crazy lifestyle of her parents, as to be normal. We hope such a daughter, too young to make choice of marriage, does not befall to brutal harm from husband GHQ parents arrange for her to marry, or a son does not become jailed for abuse of his wife, having seen his father ceaselessly get away with .

Where is their humility as a devotee? Everyone must live their lifestyle? Twisting words anyone utters, should those words be dissimilar to theirs.

"Unfortunately, in this Age of Kali there are many mundane persons in the dress of Vaisnavas, and Srila BhaktivinodaThakura has described them as disciples of Kali. He says, kali-cela. He indicates that there is another Vaisnava, a pseudo Vaisnava with tilaka on his nose and kanthi beads around his neck. Such a pseudo Vaisnava associates with money and women and is jealous of successful Vaisnavas. Although passing for a Vaisnava, his only business is earning money in the dress of a Vaisnava." (Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Madhya-lila, 1.218 purport)

Deliberately they build and install false fears: “If the women does that, what will happen to the children?!” Reality divulges women have always taken care of her children in the movement or out, its natural. Men have higher statistics to run away, or as deadbeat dads. GHQ would claim they're good fathers since they stick around. Hopefully they're good fathers but we know they have domination problems, difficulty with detachment, want to own everything and everyone.


"Not that with a motive, that "I shall become a devotee and exploit Krsna and Krsna consciousness movement and aggravate my position as sense gratifier." No, that is not devotion. - Srila Prabhupada, Bhagavatam Lecture 1.10.4--Mayapura, June 19, 1973

Nevertheless, many and most GHQ want polygamy with adolescent minor girls. These men are between ages of 45 and 65 years old. No authority finds this warps the mind of any man? They need to put an end to the acceptance, including tolerance, of the GHQ.

"For those who are too attached to material enjoyment, sense gratification is very difficult to give up. Even when one is an invalid because of old age, one cannot give up such desires for sense gratification. Therefore, one who actually desires happiness must give up such unsatisfied desires, which are the cause of all tribulations." SB 9.19.16

Surprisingly 'some' GHQ members are very strict in "mechanical" following; nontheless they maintain anger, reject purification, believe in their incontestable hierarchy, and absolute rightness. By chance if they don't want woman in their life (rare), they expect other GHQ to take them on, and keep them all down and under their thumb. Attraction and repulsion - Bhagavad Gita tells us, same thing. Repulsion is truthfully attraction. Sex desire weaves itself deeply in GHQ. Why they don't want to handle it and advance.

The word GHQ is the acronym for “General Head Quarters.” Nothing spiritual. Had they the slightest bit of pure motive, they would have rejected this name. A name which speaks for itself. Militant. They are dominators, jealous, vigilantes desirous to overthrow Prabhupada’s Movement and change it into their system.

"To become restless in the contact of women and wealth is not an astonishment, because every living being is associated with such things from remote time, practically immemorial, and it takes time to recover from this foreign nature. But if one is engaged in hearing the glories of the Lord, gradually he realizes his real position. By the grace of God such a devotee gets sufficient strength to defend himself from the state of disturbances, and gradually all disturbing elements are eliminated from his mind." Srimad Bhagavatam, 1.2.1

Readers may wonder if this be showing Prabhupada as prejudiced against women. No, it is not. It's important to study "all" his works. Having read vast misunderstandings of his works by the innocernt, thanks to the postings of misogynists and GHQ, it now becomes essential to elucidate various points. 'Disciple' also means student, accordingly to study regularly, daily, as would in any school or University. It takes time. Hence, two basic principles stand behind such quotes. One: he is usually speaking of nonspiritual materialistic women. Misogynists seldom make the distinction, and they prefer hyperfocus other texts. Two: next principle behind all such quotes, is woman also is to avoid man, an instruction for iniatates. Thus it's not a gender issue, applies equally to both genders. My speculation be, Veda originally composed in male connotations merely because of system everyone practiced in that era; with orgins of Veda reaching so far back, men who went to learn became pure devotees quickly, returning home to marry and then explain to wife. Postion misogynists and GHQ demand but unqualified in contemporary kali yuga.

"If we become attracted... Woman means for man the woman is woman, andfor the woman the man is woman. Not that woman means a particularclass. Woman means which are enjoyable. So in this material world, theman is enjoyable by the woman, and the woman is enjoyable by the man. For both of them, visayinam sandarsanm atha yositam. Yosit meansenjoyable." Srila Prabhupada Lecture on Srimad-Bhagavatam. Vrndavana, 10 September 1976

Despite fact the GHQ vigorously pursued spiritual initiation, they're advocates of polygamy, a sneaky way to break their vows of celibacy and credit/blame Veda. Reality: Prabhupada does not want a society full of polygamists.


"My Dear Rupanuga, Please accept my blessings. I am in receipt of your letter dated 31/1/73. After conferring with my various GBC representatives I have concluded that polygamy must be strictly prohibited in our society. Although it is a Vedic institution still there are so many legal implications. Neither are many of our men fixed up enough to tend for more than one wife. Polygamy will simply increase the sex life and our philosophy is to gradually decrease the sex life till eventually there is no sex life. The policy should be that all the women are given the utmost protection. Women are looking for husbands because they feel unprotected so it is up to the senior members to give all protection to the women." Srila Prabhupada Letter, Sydney 14 February, 1973


Polygamists yearn continually after sex. Throw in some power, prestige, and massive control. All these are interconnected to sexual power. Full circling back to: GHQ's about sex.

"The conditioned soul is very proud of becoming the husband of even one wife, but the Lord laughs at this; the intelligent man can know who is the real husband. Factually, the Lord is the husband of all the women in His creation, but a conditioned soul under the control of the Lord feels proud to be the husband of one or two wives." Srimad Bhagavatam 2.4.20

Krishna explains, we took birth because we wanted to be as Him. Prabhupada reveals, the way out of the material world is to give up its highest pleasure, sex, replace it with a higher pleasure: Krishna. There is no other way anyone can give up highest pleasures in the material world, sex, except to transport into their life superior spiritual pleasure: the God connection.

"The Vedic principle is that one should avoid sex life altogether. The whole Vedic principle is to get liberation from material bondage." Srila Prabhupada and Bob Cohen, February 28, 1972

If anyone took time to go through histories of GHQ members it would be seen they are not the good devotees they proclaim. There's often a history of abuse, known or unknown to others. Verbal, physical probably sexual (can't imagine what their wife must endure.) Other GHQ may not have a recognized history in iskcon because they’re quiet, but subsequent to the discovery of this support, they spoke up about inferiority of women, giving much verbal abuse.

Whereas Srila Prabhupada's words are genuinely honest, and enlightening:

"Those words which do not describe the glories of the Lord, who alone can sanctify the atmosphere of the whole universe, are considered by saintly persons to be like unto a place of pilgrimage for crows. Since the all-perfect persons are inhabitants of the transcendental abode, they do not derive any pleasure there." Srimad Bhagavatam. 1.5.10

Point out to the misogynists they have a propensity to enjoy controlling everyone; due to their self concept as high authority, they smile. State they're enjoying lording it over women; viewing their strong sexual prowess, they smugly agree. Clarify what they're doing is abuse, they speedy validate scripturally (which they can't, but they are experts at fraudulence). Ever wonder if they have emotional or mental problems?

Insecurity

Egotism
Narcissism
Depression
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (O.C.D)
Criminal propensities
Drug /Alcohol Addictions,
Other Addictions (sex addictions, power addiction, food addiction, etc)
Copy's karmi parents, priest/rabbi, school friends; old patterns of karmi's

Keep wife down to verbally/physically/sexually abuse to get away with it.
Feel intimidated or inferior around strong intelligent women,
Feel threatened by women they can't control.
Feeling same around Blacks, Latinos, & those who disagree with them.
Other matters.
Maha Denial


Formerly each temple had a man or women with emotional or mental problems, but able to help them improve, because other normal devotees would preach to them. There are stories of devotees previously joining with history of substance abuse, or of psychological problems, completely overcoming them by authentically following Prabhupada’s process, not modifying it to give their troubles the illusion they were not troubles. A devotee confided in me some emotional illness prior to joining, and how that fully left after engaging in Krishna Conscious practices. This isn't speaking to problems requiring medication, only emotion problems. However in this case they ran deep, as was disclosed by this devotee: Emotional problems gone after commitment to pure, unadulterated devotional service.

At present, those with problems they deny, can't see, needs pointing out, and false ego's calmed, have been left without brahmacari or brahmacarini or good grhasta association surrounding them to snap them out of their illusion. Currently having internet to get organized, bullies can terrorize others who are courageous to inform them they have a problem, or are in maya, or need professional help. Its not easy to reveal this to anyone, but they disallow any cleansing, they're fine.

Conversely, there's something shoddier then all of the above. That Iskcon, or any authority, or a devotee with power, do NOTHING about them. What to speak of, inform such offenders they need a complete overhaul of their consciousness, holding these erroneous conceptions of Prabhupada's process. Still, not a finger is lifted. The cowards. Additionally sneaky misogynists, in agreement but not disclosing.

This is a lawsuit waiting to blow up in someones unsuspecting face. Its not possible to ignore known abusers, allow them to attend temple where many innocents live, GHQ can cozy-up to male authorities yet at home mistreat wife; without reactions? If ISKCON thinks: 'should a lawsuit happen it will never touch us,' think again. When somebody knowingly allows such things, they become an "accomplice."

If under the impression since wives of GHQ be extremely submissive, by no means would they take legal action, also think again. Ultimately they'll finally notice they're not living Krishna consciousness, eventually to recognize abuse as irreligiousity. Then angry to have followed a man who lead them, and their children, toward repeated birth and death, they will take some form of action. An arrest could be made, or the start of a class action law suit. If by fluke the submissives don't take such action, then a temple devotee may have felt harassed, slurred, or even inappropriately approached by GHQ, then start a law suit to include ISKCON did not warn or protect. Then if not them, an outsider (temple visitor: police brother, lawyer sister, therapist parent; or reader of GHQ on the net) may observe no one getting involved, and organize something.

Risk continues. Sooner or later its highly probable someone will end up with a broken arm, or worse. GHQ proclaims if a woman is injured by husband, its her fault. If only she did something differently then he would not have done as he did. - Hence by choice or against woman's will, sooner or later it will surely come to the attention of karmi authorities, and they shall take the action everyone else is so afraid to take. Iskcon will not be excluded. Excuses they tell devotees will not be accepted by the law.

Still believe the submissive will never do a thing, and authoritative husband, GHQ, or ISKCON authorities can keep them under control? Same had been believed by Gurukula Authorities regarding abuse; reality proved otherwise.

Temple authorities will kick out, form child molesters to innocent devotees they merely dislike. Apparently its perfectly fine to maintain woman haters and woman abusers.

Go ahead, keep ignoring the GHQ, then when ISKCON and NONiskcon authorities "themselves" begin to have serious life problems, and they will, they should connect the dots and remember this:





AINT KARMA A *ITCH.


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"Srila Narottama dasa Thakura says, chadiya vaisnava seva nistara payeche keba: unless one serves a Vaisnava, he cannot be delivered. The spiritual master initiates the disciple to deliver him, and if the disciple executes the order of the spiritual master and does not offend other Vaisnavas, his path is clear. Consequently Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu requested all the Vaisnavas present to show mercy toward the two brothers, Rupa and Sanatana, who had just been initiated by the Lord. When a Vaisnava sees that another Vaisnava is a recipient of the Lord's mercy, he becomes very happy. Vaisnavas are not envious. If a Vaisnava, by the mercy of the Lord, is empowered by Him to distribute the Lord's holy name all over the world, other Vaisnavas become very joyful--that is, if they are truly Vaisnavas. One who is envious of the success of a Vaisnava is certainly not a Vaisnava himself, but an ordinary mundane man. Envy and jealousy are manifested by mundane people, not by Vaisnavas. Why should a Vaisnava be envious of another Vaisnava who is successful in spreading the holy name of the Lord? An actual Vaisnava is very pleased to accept another Vaisnava who is bestowing the Lord's mercy. A mundane person in the dress of a Vaisnava should not be respected but rejected. This is enjoined in the sastra (upeksa). The word upeksa means neglect. One should neglect an envious person. A preacher's duty is to love the Supreme Personality of Godhead, make friendships with Vaisnavas, show mercy to the innocent and reject or neglect those who are envious or jealous. There are many jealous people in the dress of Vaisnavas in this Krsna consciousness movement, and they should be completely neglected. There is no need to serve a jealous person who is in the dress of a Vaisnava. When Narottama dasa Thakura says chadiya vaisnava seva nistara payeche keba, he is indicating an actual Vaisnava, not an envious or jealous person in the dress of a Vaisnava." CC, Madhya Lila, 1.218


Women's Ministry, & Why it "had" to start:
http://womeninkrsnaconsciousness.blogspot.com/2010/07/womens-ministry.html

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Monday, June 28, 2010

White Supremists, Male Superiority, Slavery

This one really curls my tail. Misogynists are usually bigots. With their self-imposed outlook of "who they are" (advanced), lining this up as male superiority, it should not be amazing that in addition, they are prejudiced concerning anyone with black skin. Male or female, irrelevant.

"Lower birth," they complain. Then on to blaming Srila Prabhupada. The reality is, they DON'T UNDERSTAND Srila Prabhupada. They understand that which can be altered and brought 'round to serve their sense of pleasures, including mental pleasure. Acknowledged there are a few (very few) quotes where Prabhupada speaks of slavery, and this was startling. Figured it out- We are speaking of the pure devotees way of thinking, not ours, not the material history of slavery abuse.

After figuring that out, amiably discovered a matching quote! Lost it, but read it. Prabhupada's definition of slavery was indeed different from ours! It was in reference to taking care of those who are extremely poor, less fortunate. How many of us have had a friend or cousin who fell on very hard times, we agreed to let them come stay with us for an extended period. Possibly you offered such persons a job on your farm if you have one, more likely to fix up the house, do some carpentry, or whatever you had to offer. No one is to be left a struggling sudra, and those who can, should reach a hand out to help.

Revised- Above its mentioned having read such a quote. Think I just discovered it. "Yogesvara: Yes, when the sudras were seeing that, "Oh, these men, they are keeping us as slaves, and they are making us work just for our food," then they revolted.


Srila Prabhuapda: “No, no. You should keep them such nicely and friendly way, they will never think like that. They will think that you are giving him food and shelter, and you are taking care, giving them protection to their family. Then they will be happy. Then they are happy. When you give them all protection, then they will be happy. Now… Just like in Japan. The industrialists give all men. They give food. They give education. They give shelter. So they work very happily”



"Bhagavan: They like to work.

"Prabhupada: Yes.

"Bhagavan: It’s not that people like to be idle.

"Prabhupada: I have seen. And the Dai Nippon directors, they live very poorly, but still, they do not like to give up the service because they are assured of their family, protection, medicine, food, education. They did not like. Never mind, it is not very luxurious. Still, they stick. That I have seen." -Srila Prabhuapda, Morning Walk Conversatin, Rome Italy, May 27 1974,

Srila Prabhupada preformed the marriage ceremony of Sudama das (Afro-American man) to Cintamani devi dasi (white woman). He would not have done so if he were prejudiced in the least. "Just like I am talking with you," I am not talking with your shirt. I don’t look to your shirt, whether you have put on a white shirt or black shirt. That is not my concern. I am concerned with you as a living being. This is our philosophy. We don’t take account of the outward shirt and coat." - Srila Prabhupada, July 5, 1972

Evident that the concept of the pure devotee Srila Prabhuapda's of this subject matter be vastly different than our own. Making next, a great deal depending upon how we the conditioned soul view and addresses these topics. An example of the world may be, taking a pet to the Veterinarian, one can honor the Vet for becoming one, or can make a disrespectful remark: "What’s wrong, couldn't cut it in medical school for human beings?" Clearly the wrong perspective!


There are difference in men, women, cultures, more. If we recognize them as mere difference no one will become puffed up, thus respect will remain for all concerned. A woman can not lift tremendous heavy items. (There's exceptions, but not alluding to exceptions). A man can't have a baby. No matter how hard he tries, he can not become pregnant or give birth. Short of Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Only if a human being lets it go to their head and view 'difference' as 'inferiority vs superiority,' does trouble arise. More importantly, its materialistic, not spiritual.

Often we start our learning in relationship to what we identify with - our material body. That is step number one. Prabhupada used various practical examples to help us relate (though not about black vs white). A child first learns, what are "ears?," by touching his own ears; soon learns not to hurt others when he discovered bumping into a wall hurts him. Next the child learns to love their local community by first learning love at home from mum and dad. As they grow, what they learn can expand into greatness, if it is correctly taught in the beginning. One leading to the next. Often starting with our own body, our own community, our own experiences.

A professor of college has a higher position in life than his or her students usually have. We recognize that as a basic fact. Later students may become a professor, simply first, one starts from the humble position.

Our reality is that of living in this world. Case in point: we go to a doctor only to find out we require a specialist. Are we to think the specialist is a higher birthed person then the doctor who went through at least 8 years of medical school? Nonsense. Thus it is not pure understanding of Veda that uses caste system to put blacks, women, Latino, or others, in inferior categories. While that's present in other religions like Hinduism, but its not what Srila Prabhupada taught. We really need to take time out to learn, or become aware of, differences between Hinduism and Krishna Consciousness, assuring we follow Prabhupada's instructions only. (Respect to Hindus. This isn’t about you, rather devotees following Prabhupada accurately.)



If the definition of slavery used by GHQ and other misogynists is accurate, then why do we not see Srila Prabhupada owning any slaves? It is because misogynist men would not want to jog their brain & think outside the box, to accept their western ways of understandings are even western, when they are. They do not want to admit their way of thinking is wrong. Can not admit Prabhuapada speaks in unusual ways, ways many may initially not understand but those with pure hearts want to hear the higher, accurate, understanding.


Those who love the idea of owning slaves rather pass off their contamined desires as spiritual. Yet it is not part of Vaisnava lineage to own slaves. Who owned them? Not Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Goswami, not BhaktiVinode Thakura, no one. Thus when we see Prabhupada speak of it, he is using different meaning, refering to mood of helping out the desperate as if giving them a job.


Srimad Bhagavatam explains in it's introduction:


"The system of varnashrama-dharma is more or less based on moral principles. There is very little realization of the Transcendence as such, and Lord Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu rejected it as superficial and asked Ramananda Raya to go further into the matter."

Srila Prabhupada was never prejudiced! Bhakti-Tirtha swami, Afro-American, was initiated by Prabhupada. He took him on as his disciple full-fledged. Bhakti Tirtha has since left his body (passed away), he shall not be the main topic, and all respect to those who were close to him. The guru/disciple relationship is very serious thing. If the disciple does not make it back to Godhead, the guru must comes back to save him all over again. Do the misogynists believe Prabhupada was a bigot yet willing to come back, if needed, return to this material world of birth and death to again pick up any of his numerous Afro-American disciples? (Or Latino, or women, or white.)

Prabhupada reveals highest knowledge:


"He may be a man, he may be a woman, he may be a sudra, he may be a brahmana or he may be black or he may be white. Everyone can approach to the highest platform of devotional service. It is open field." - Srila Prabhupada, Bhagavatam Lecture, Montreal, 19 August 1968

"The system of caste, or varnashrama-dharma, is no longer regular even amongst so-called followers of the system." Srimad Bhagavatam 2:4:18

Misogynists, you proudly admit to bigotry, enjoy intimidating others - keeping them beneath you, and are not following His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada, regardless how often you deceptively insist you are. However, you're doing a terrific job at ruining his reputation on the net. Then again, you can only speak according to your level of realization: HINDSIGHT-

http://womeninkrsnaconsciousness.blogspot.com/2010/06/hindsight.html